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The Tyranny of They; Inside the Port Controversy

Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:16 PM EST
world-news, terrorism, dubai, united-arab-emirates, port-security
By Jeff Hewitt
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You've no doubt heard the impassioned arguments. "They can't be trusted." "They just don't think like we do." "They hate freedom." "They hate America."

The reality is of course, like much on this brave new world in which we find ourselves, a great deal more complicated. Let's take a few moments to examine the particulars of the case. This will take some time, so grab some munchies. Get a soda, and sit back.

What is the UAE?

First off, the United Arab Emirates aren't a country. At least not in terms of what we Americans tend to view as a country. It's more of an agreement between city-states wherein the individual states' leaders act as a unified body when dealing with the outside world while leaving the interior government of each region to its respective ruler. Think of a situation whereby what we would recognize as state governors combine to determine national and foreign policy. The UAE is composed of the following seven emirates: Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Dubai, Fujairah, Ras Al Khaimah, Sharjah, and Umm Al Quwain. Its population is comprised of around 850,000 Emiratis and 2.6 million foreign expatriates and workers. It is the world's ninth leading oil producer and fifth largest exporter.

The UAE's leaders are not elected, but instead elevated to their positions on the basis of an hereditary hierarchy much like British royalty. The order of each ruler's position on the Supreme Council is determined by the relative importance of that leader's respective state. The current President, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan was elected immediately upon the day following the death of his father -who was nearly universally beloved by the UAE's citizens for his legacy of using oil profits not to improve his own standing, but rather to uplift and enrich the country as a whole. He greatly improved the standards of living for the majority of the UAE's citizens.

Sheikh Khalifa is generally regarded as being pro-western, moderate as an Islamic, sympathetic to women's rights, modernist, and favorably inclined towards the to introduction of democratic reforms in his country.

It is important to note that the nation is not a paradise. The governments restrict freedom of assembly. They restrict religious freedoms to some extent. There are no labor unions. Its citizens lack the right to change their government. There are no political parties. There are restrictions on freedom of speech and the press. It has, in the past, been a destination for the trafficking of modern day slavery, primarily for the use of children in camel racing sports and women for prostitution (though the government has taken steps to eliminate these practices). The current President does appear to be gradually attempting to address these matters, and for the region the UAE is thought to be a moderate Islamic nation.

Dubai

Dubai is run by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, who was nominated and supported by the UAE's President to serve as both Vice President and Prime Minister. He is considered to hold views similar to those of Sheikh Khalifa. Dubai is exceptional among middle eastern states in that only 6% of its GDP is derived from oil profits. The majority of its economy is fueled through shipping and port management.

The current sheikh is increasingly pushing to diversify its economy with tourism and service-based industries. One such recent endeavor is the creation of the state owned bio-firm, Dubiotech, which targets emerging areas involving pharmaceuticals, medical research and bio-warfare defense.

The UAE and America

The UAE and the United States have a joint trade agreement.

Nearly fifteen-hundred American military personnel live and work at an air base in the UAE. Surveillance missions and refueling tankers fly daily from the location over Iraq and Afghanistan.

During the Iran/Iraq war, the UAE cooperated extensively with the United States in protecting cargo ships traveling through the area.

They sent troops to assist in the liberation of Kuwait in the first Gulf War.

Many schools in the UAE teach from American curriculums.

Two of the terrorists involved in the September 11th attacks were born in the UAE. The Congressional 9/11 Commission found evidence that the terrorists were able to transmit most of their funding though Dubai owned banks through the exploitation of poor regulation and banking controls, which the UAE has subsequently acted to improve and shut down terrorist financing through their nation.

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has recently reaffirmed the UAE's commitment to aiding the U.S. in fighting terrorists.

Port Controversy

A state owned company in Dubai is attempting to purchase London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. The affected ports include, among others:

Port of Wilmington (Delaware)
Port of Miami (Florida)
Port of New Orleans (Louisiana)
Port of Portland (Maine)
Port of Boston (Massachusetts)
Mississippi State Port at Gulfport
NY City Passenger Ship Terminal
Port Authority of NY & NJ
Philadelphia Regional Port Authority (Pennsylvania)
Delaware River Port Authority of PA & NJ
Port of Houston (Texas)
Port of VA

Critics of the deal point to the UAE's connection to the September 11th attacks as proof that the Dubai-based company is susceptible to terrorist insinuation and unfit to operate these ports. It's important to note that the vast majority of employees in these ports would be Americans, employed through American Labor Unions. Security would continued to be handled through the U.S. Coast Guard, and Customs Department.

To quote the "Houston Conservative":

"I do not believe this is a good idea... it just doesn't FEEL RIGHT to have mission critical facilities under the control of a foreign power, no matter how benevolent and benign we may believe them to be ... This is stupid, it's bad policy and it's bad politics."

Never mind the inconvenient fact that the operation of our ports has been in foreign hands for quite some time.

A Nation of Expatriates

A source of both strength and weakness for the UAE lies primarily in its large expatriate population. Expatriates provide a source of cheap labor for the region's steadily growing service and construction industries, but draws criticism over charges of worker exploitation and poor human rights conditions. Expatriates in the UAE have no political rights, and are not allowed to own land.

Over 80% of the population is comprised of non-citizens. Most of these are formerly of Iran and Southeast Asia, both of which have been marked by the US State Department as hotbeds of terrorist activities. One of the ironies of the American public's reaction to the proposed port deal is that few of the faces seen as a result would be Arabic. Far more Southeast Asians would gain entry to our ports as a result.

The Question Before Us

The choice before us as a country regarding these ports is complicated and unlikely to be explained in 60 second sound bites on the evening news; however, I feel it can be boiled down to a fairly simple equation.

Certainly, the risk of a significant terrorist strike within our borders increases with the acquisition of these ports by Dubai World. While port personnel will be overwhelmingly staffed with American citizens, the deal will increase the number of ships entering our waters from Dubai. These ships will be crewed by UAE expatriates, many of whom will be emigrates from areas of terrorist activities. Certainly, it would not be inconceivable under current port conditions for terrorist operatives to gain access to our country by way of these ports...

Which is why Congress needs to take immediate action.

But what action? Do we as a nation wish to provide economic support and friendship to a pro-western middle eastern government which is in many ways the epitome of what we hope to establish in Iraq? Or do we wish unequivocally reduce the possibility of terrorist activity on our soil?

In my opinion, we should do both.

Port security in our country is a joke -a dangerously understaffed, poorly regulated and vastly underfunded joke, at that. Congress should allow the Dubai deal to pass. They should immediately turn the political capital gained in return from the Bush administration to passing legislation to properly secure our nation's most vital shipping resources. They should increase oversight of the current Federal programs involving port security, tighten the loopholes, and foster accountability.

What Congress absolutely should not do is succumb to xenophobic and racist attitudes towards the middle east.

Yes, two of the September 11th attackers were born in the UAE. Imagine if all of Liberia were to judge us on the actions of American expatriate Charles Taylor, who was nearly single-handedly responsible for years of civil war and repression in their country.

We, as a nation of the free and the brave, have an absolute responsibility to rise above fear of the unfamiliar when dealing with the outside world. We must look past "They" and avoid the tragic trap of viewing the Arab world solely through a prism of sinister, swarthy men wearing turbans while burning American flags. If we try hard enough, we might just see that there are in fact, many moderate Islamics who wish to extend the hand of friendship and prosperity to America.

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Mike Gillis

Very nice article.

From the beginning, I've tried to point out to people that it's really not a big deal, Dubai's an amazing city, the UAE does alright -- it just looks so horrible to have this come out without some sort of discussion before the fact with the affected ports, municipalities, and politicians. It's just such inept politics.

Americans will have to get used to this more and more, as the dollar falls and foreign debt contiues to skyrocket. Buying American properties will only become even more of a good idea. (To a certain point, anyway...)

Welcome to the global economy!

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:05 AM EST
Chaosflutterby

Two terrorists involved in the Oklahoma City bombings were from the United States of America.

Perhaps we could reduce the risk of terror by refusing to trade with ourselves?

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:17 AM EST
AdamLenda

The rise of xenophobia in our nation is most regrettable.

The Statue of Liberty is inscribed with the following:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

When we use nationality or religion as a factor on who can come and go or who can own what, we are forgetting ourselves.

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:41 AM EST
Jennsen

What an excellently convincing article! You've obviously done some extensive research on this, and you've presented us with clear and concrete facts to support your opinion.

We will have to face our fear of foreign cultures at some point. Rather than repeat our abhorrent behavior regarding other peoples we did not understand (and therefore treated poorly) - Native America and the African slave trade come to mind - perhaps we've grown enough to vie for a symbiotic relationship.

Certainly we can't afford to lose out on the economic benefits, but less so can we afford to show fear in the face of the unknown and further foster more prejudice. Mr. Hewitt, you are dead-on in your philosophy.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:44 AM EST
Mike Gillis

One small correction I just noticed now: it's United Arab Emirates, not United Arabs Emirate.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:44 AM EST
Dan Boland

Nice article, Jeff.

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:33 AM EST
Killfile

An excellent article by all accounts, though I can't say I agree with you.

I understand the hypocrisy of saying that we're ok with the British owning the ports, but not ok with the UAE. We shouldn't hold a forward thinking, pro-America, pro-Buisness country to a higher standard just because they happen to be a Muslim state in the Mid-East. You're right -- and that is completely and totally wrong.

But the brouhaha over all this does highlight other issues.

I, for one, am not ok with the idea of national security being in foreign hands.

I don't think we should rely upon other countries to manage our ports
I don't think we should rely upon other countries to provide our food supply
I don't think we should rely upon other countries to protect our shores.

I've nothing against the UAE. Personally, I think that it was a bad move to allow a British company to control the ports.* Certain interests are too vital to the security of a country to be trusted to any other power -- no matter how friendly, how trustworthy, how peaceful that country might be.

Economic efficiency is the modern God of the Global Economy. It is a powerful god and worthy of a great deal of deference, but the sacrifice of national security -- indeed some might say national sovereignty to that god is too much to ask.

* I am prepared to cut Britain a little slack here. Unlike every other country in the world, Britain has spent the last few centuries protecting the freedom of the seas, even for their enemies. Even so, I am disinclined to trust even the most trustworthy of nations in a matter such as this.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:05 PM EST
Jim Mirick

Outstanding analysis and right on the mark regarding port security and how the administration and Congress have absolutely dropped the ball on this. We pad around in our stocking feet at airports because one moron once loaded his Nikes with explosive, but Lord knows how many containers get floated in and trucked off into the middle of our country without any inspection at all. In this case, Pogo was right: "we have met the enemy and he is us."

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:23 PM EST
Savoy35

KillFile,

Apparently you didn't read the article, security at the ports is still handled (however ineptly by the USCG). The docks are still going to be manned by American union workers. So basically you are just upset over the profit for managing the port to go somewhere else other then to a US company. Well I guess we should have all of our companies pull out of a all foriegn investment then? Out national security is in the hands of every single International airport in the world. How are we supposed to handle our national security without either cutting off all communication, trade, and tranportation with the rest of the world, or trying to work together toward the greater good.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:15 PM EST
Killfile

Savoy35:

You mischaracterize my assessment. If the UAE corporation in question gains control of the ports they are entitled to the same classified security briefings as all other port owners from DHS. Moreover, they acquire the real and undeniable power to make serious decisions which could impact - in the long run - the ability of those ports to function properly.

I am in no way impugning the reliability or, or peaceful intentions of UAE - but this is a decision in which the American people are at least justly paranoid.

As to the question of airports - yes, we do run minor risks from international air traffic. However, it is a diffuse risk and one which is spread out over thousands of airports around the world instead of concentrated in a small number of ports.

  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:34 PM EST
AdamLenda

KillFile,

Could you post a reference for the statement...

Moreover, they acquire the real and undeniable power to make serious decisions which could impact - in the long run - the ability of those ports to function properly.

I am not questioning your integrity. I am simply unaware of this dynamic in the discussion.

Thanks,
--Adam

  • 1 vote
Reply#12 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:08 PM EST
Killfile

I'm not sure what you mean by a reference... do you want US code detailing the rights of a property owner or a business owner to shut down or alter operations? The ports become an asset of a corporation which is, for the most part, outside of the jurisdiction of the United States Government.

As a corporate asset it is ultimately up to the owner how the day to day operations of the port are handled. While the owner can't alter the way we handle customs - what happens if the owner order port operations to cease?

What happens when the port owner decided not to service vessels sailing under specific flags for whatever reason?

Admittedly these operations would be against the financial interests of the port owner but what kind of a position does that place the US government in? The ports continued functionality is a matter of national security. The ports could be nationalized and seized by the Federal Government, but doing so would constitute the seizure of foreign property which is of dubious constitutionality to say nothing of the possible international consequences.

    Reply#13 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:17 PM EST
    AdamLenda

    Killfile,

    What happens when the port owner decided not to service vessels sailing under specific flags for whatever reason?

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't such action constitute discrimination? Wouldn't legal action be the natural recourse to over come such action? It seems plausible such a case could be couched in terms friendly to standing on the same legislation passed to ensure fair and equal treatment of individuals.

    I really have to question you here. I don't have a reference to hand, but perhaps you do.

    The ports could be nationalized and seized by the Federal Government, but doing so would constitute the seizure of foreign property which is of dubious constitutionality to say nothing of the possible international consequences.

    As I understand it, the only "foreign soil" in America is that belonging to an Embassy. Even beyond that, the laws of Eminent Domain would surly cover any government action to seize and reopen ports.

    Thank you for taking the time to reply back and answer my questions.
    --Adam

    • 1 vote
    Reply#14 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:51 PM EST
    decks_n_fx

    All of the ports will still belong to the existing authorities. For example, the Port of Baltimore will still be owned by Maryland, and the final word on operations at the port will come from Annapolis. I believe that Dubai Ports World would simply be given a contract: they would own nothing. Besides, foreigners owning land in the US do not add that land to the territory of their home country; the city, state, and national authorities would still have jurisdiction.

    On the other hand, there are reports that Dubai Ports World enforces the trade embargo with Israel. This, along with the gentle authoritarianism practiced by the rulers of the UAE (censorship, hereditary rule), eliminates, for me, any sense of entitlement on the part of the UAE. The recently agreed-upon delay should be used to closely investigate DPW.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#15 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:44 PM EST
    billybobjoe

    @AdamLenda

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't such action constitute discrimination? Wouldn't legal action be the natural recourse to over come such action? It seems plausible such a case could be couched in terms friendly to standing on the same legislation passed to ensure fair and equal treatment of individuals.

    Unfortunately the specifics of this case involve a government-owned corporation taking over management so legal recourse would be tricky. Here is a pretty comprehensive look at the UAE's history with equal treatment and overview of their government.

    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41734.htm

      Reply#16 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:47 PM EST
      Killfile

      If the ultimate ownership does in-fact reside with Annapolis, New Orleans, etc and does not specifically pass to a foreign corporation -- then I'm fine with it.

      But I don't see how that would work.

      Somehow I've confused a few of you. I never meant (and I don't think I said) that if DPW took over the ports that the ports themselves (as in the physical land upon which they rest) would become the sovereign soil of the UAE. What I meant (and thought I said) was that if DPW takes over the ports, the docks, facilities, lifts, cranes, buildings, equipment -- basically everything that differentiates a Port from any other bit of shoreline -- would be the property of DPW.

      If DPW, due to a shift in corporate policy, a shift in UAE's government, or just a shift in local or global politics decides to start taking marching orders from the UAE's government we risk the use of an American Port as a pawn of a foreign government.

      As I said earlier, there is little that the US can do to enforce its laws and rules upon a foreign corporation backed by the power of a foreign government.

        Reply#17 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:27 PM EST
        kjsoul

        I am in no way impugning the reliability or, or peaceful intentions of UAE - but this is a decision in which the American people are at least justly paranoid

        I agree the American people are at least justly paranoid, but mostly because the American public has heard a lot of propaganda about "Islamo-Fascist," especially from right-wing radio. The Administration has often used the lack of public understanding about the Middle East in justification for its foreign policy. What percentage of Americans believed there was a link between Saddam and Bin Laden? I can't recall the exact percentage, but I know it was more than 50%. Part of the reason for such confusion is the constant linking of September 11 to current policy in the Middle East. Its hard to play both sides of the fence when emotional responses to the attacks of 9-11 are are exploited for support of the Iraq War, the march to war in Syria and Iran, and support of Israel's occupation of Palestine. Dumbing down the media has its consequences and in this case Dubai is a victim of America's learned paranoia towards the Middle East.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#18 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:36 PM EST
        Full Throttle

        While I agree this is the best post on this topic I would take exception to the following.

        Jeff Hewitt writes:

        While port personnel will be overwhelmingly staffed with American citizens, the deal will increase the number of ships entering our waters from Dubai. These ships will be crewed by UAE expatriates, many of whom will be emigrates from areas of terrorist activities. Certainly, it would not be inconceivable under current port conditions for terrorist operatives to gain access to our country by way of these ports...

        There is no evidence a management company, which DP World would be, would direct more ships into US ports whose origin was Dubai. This flies in the face of efficient movement of goods for import and export. In short it "ain't" gonna happen. Moreover "UAE expatriates" won't be on these ships. Shipping companies hire and fire workers not port management companies. Finally, are you aware that all ships and containers with an origin of Dubai are inspected by US customs and Homeland Security in Dubai?

        Killfile writes:

        I, for one, am not ok with the idea of national security being in foreign hands.

        I don't think we should rely upon other countries to manage our ports
        I don't think we should rely upon other countries to provide our food supply
        I don't think we should rely upon other countries to protect our shores.

        Point one: I assume you would halt all foreign management of ports. In that case who would you suggest do the job, name me one US company that is not only capable but has the finances to do the job (and assume the P&O contract), that DP World is capable of. Secondly, I also assume you would cancel the DP World contract for a terminal in the Houston Shipping Channel, where they have operated for years with no problems. It would also mean the APL terminals manageded by Singapore and the ports manageded by China would also be handed over to this "near mythical" US company to operate. As an aside: Question, why are many of those that are opposed to this deal in Congress also some the same people that approved the sale of 80 F-16 fighter jets to the UAE? Jets that are more capable than what our own Air Force flys.

        Point2: Not rely on "other countries to provide our food supply?" What kind of isolationist, misguided nonsense is that! To believe that you have no concept of what the international market is about and risk a trade war to end all trade wars if taken to it's logical conclusion. (i.e. no foreign food in equals retaliation in the form of no US food stuffs being exported.)

        Point 3: What countires would that be? Which one will we be relying on "to protect our shores?"

        • 3 votes
        Reply#19 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:38 PM EST
        billybobjoe

        @Full Throttle

        Question, why are many of those that are opposed to this deal in Congress also some the same people that approved the sale of 80 F-16 fighter jets to the UAE? Jets that are more capable than what our own Air Force flys.

        Do you know who approved the sale of 80 F-16 fighters to the UAE? I'm sure the American people would like to know who is selling weapons and technologies to the middle-east. I know I would, at least I'd like to ask them why.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#20 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:44 PM EST
        Edward Sebastian

        Where can I vote for best columnist on Newsvine? Jeff Hewitt's the man. Well written, though out, articulate.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#21 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:17 PM EST
        Jeff Hewitt

        @ Full Throttle

        Admittedly, I am drawing on knowledge of shipping operations from a Merchant Marine captain who is an acquaintance of mine. His explanation indicated that the staffing of ship's crew tends to be a revolving door, especially in lesser skilled jobs. Upon consideration, my logic may be off here, as it's based on information I cannot verify. It was my understanding that Port Management companies are in charge of awarding shipping contracts, and it stood to reason that a Dubai based Port company would favor Dubai owned shipping companies, which operate the world over.

        Thank you for reading, and for the excellent comment.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#22 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:34 PM EST
        Full Throttle

        billybobjoe writes:

        @Full Throttle

        Question, why are many of those that are opposed to this deal in Congress also some the same people that approved the sale of 80 F-16 fighter jets to the UAE? Jets that are more capable than what our own Air Force flys.

        Do you know who approved the sale of 80 F-16 fighters to the UAE?

        Do I have to do all the work? The info is readily available in the Senate and House of Reps site. Surely if interested you can do that much.

        Jeff Hewitt writes:

        @ Full Throttle

        Admittedly, I am drawing on knowledge of shipping operations from a Merchant Marine captain who is an acquaintance of mine. His explanation indicated that the staffing of ship's crew tends to be a revolving door, especially in lesser skilled jobs. Upon consideration, my logic may be off here, as it's based on information I cannot verify.

        True it is a "revolving door, that's the nature of the business. Crew sign on for anywhere from a single trip to many months under one contract. But it is my understanding most if not all hiring is done via labor unions and the shipping companies themselves. (I see if I can find a ref)

        Here is a fact sheet from the Port of Houston Authority that deals specifically with the Proposed Acquisition of P&O Ports by Dubai Ports World.

        One note on an item mentioned in the fact sheet. The Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) is a pilot program of the Dept of Homeland Security, Houston is not on the list as one of the 34 sites using it.

        I also don't know if this program is fully funded, which of course would fall in the hands of those crying about under-funded national security measures. HELLO Congress - care to comment, or continue to point fingers at the WH.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#23 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:10 PM EST
        Full Throttle

        BTW, many have used very small percentage figures in describing the number of containers that are screened upon entry to the US. The Democrats, and some Republicans, use the figure of either 2% or 5% that are screened. In short the figure is a total misrepresentation (to be kind) of the facts. The number screened is actually 100%. "of the shipments that pose a risk" before they enter the US.

        Granted what and who is determined to be a risk is debatable, but those using the "2% myth" are making a political statement and nothing more.

          Reply#24 - Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:27 PM EST
          lha2

          I'm curious when the UK based company gained control of the ports, what security review they went under, and then especially if the UK got control pre-9/11, then what the relevant legislation for oversight of said contracts is. If the UK based company underwent a 45 day review or if legislation was subsequently passed that such a thing should happen, then it would certainly be appropriate to follow that guideline.

            Reply#25 - Wed Mar 1, 2006 5:56 AM EST
            Killfile

            Full Throttle:

            Point one: I assume you would halt all foreign management of ports.

            Frankly yes. I regard US ports as a powerful economic tool and one that can be used against the United States if the controller of those ports so desires. The small number of major ports itself is a magnifier for this implication. I don't presume to know who, off the top of my head, could manage US ports - but it is my understanding that the Port of New York, for example, is managed by a US company. I find your suggestion that there does not exist a single company in the world under US management with the capital to manage our ports. If that is indeed the case than our economic power in this world is short lived.

            F-16 fighter jets to the UAE? Jets that are more capable than what our own Air Force flys.

            The F-16 Falcon is a piece of 1970s vintage hardware -- deadly to be sure, but far and away inferior to the F22-A Raptors that form the tip of the Air Force's fighter wings today. A study by the UK's DERA showed the F22 Raptor to be the most effective air superiority fighter in the world -- bar none.

            Point2: Not rely on "other countries to provide our food supply?" What kind of isolationist, misguided nonsense is that!

            It is the lessons of history and politics. The United States is not, at this point in her history, dependent on any other nation for its food supply. Indeed, we are the largest corn and grain exporter in the world. That said, I shouldn't have to tell you that the world would be a very different place indeed if the US had been reliant on Germany for its food supply in 1941.

            There is a difference between trading foodstuffs with another country and depending on them to feed your nation. Japan, for example, is in a position where it is unable to feed itself. Subject to a naval blockade Japan would starve. Australia has been able to extract extremely favorable trade agreements with Japan thanks to its ability to feed Japan with minimal transport costs. A non-independent food supply is a security risk of the greatest magnitude -- and there is nothing isolationist about that.

              Reply#26 - Wed Mar 1, 2006 9:40 AM EST
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